As Hillary Clinton becomes the first woman to have a real shot at the White House, and not long after Nancy Pelosi became the first female Speaker of the House, feminists across the country are salivating at their dream being realized. They are not so excited about having a woman in the White House for the sake of there being a woman in the White House, rather that they will have nearly all of Washington in the hands of the far-left, promoting what they claim are “women’s issues.”
Feminism as a movement has become something altogether different than what its foremothers intended. In the beginning, “feminist” meant primarily getting women the right to vote – something to which I am clearly not opposed! These women wanted us to have a voice, and for them I am truly thankful. It is because of these women that I have an education, my very own blog, the opportunity to vote for Ron Paul in 2008, and – if I must – the ability to get a job.
These women – the original feminists – still had respect for their husbands. They accepted the responsibility to stay home and raise their children, and truly wanted little more than a voice for women. Then something happened.
During the 1960’s, women’s lib teamed up with the sexual revolution and a whole new women’s movement was born. Women were told that they could have sex without consequences and, during the 1970’s, that they could “have it all” – both a family and a high-powered career – joining the workforce in droves. The attempt to balance work and family continued throughout the 1980’s, then in the 90’s women began to realize that there were sacrifices that must be made in order to “have it all.”
Somehow, in the midst of this “women’s lib for the common woman,” the women’s movement was taken over by the far left. The women’s movement of today isn’t so much about “equal rights for women,” but a liberal agenda through which women would be made dependent on government rather than their husbands.
Fewer women identify with “feminism” nowadays, for they see feminism as a radical fringe-movement bent on lesbian rights and androgynous she-males taking over the board room (and the White House). All of us, however, are suffering the consequences of the modern feminist movement.
As a stay-at-home mom, I am either belittled as an uneducated blight on women’s rights or accused of being one of the wealthy few who can live on one income. I am neither. I graduated from college with a degree in philosophy and had every intention of attending law school (with the brains and the test scores to do it). I, however, made the choice to get married, have children, and fulfill my God-given role as wife and mother. I didn’t make the choice the modern feminists wanted me to make.
I, along with most stay-at-home moms, am also not wealthy. The highest number of stay-at-home moms are a part of households that earn between $20,000 and $25,000 per year (The Politically Incorrect Guide to Women, Sex, and Feminism, 187). The last time I checked, $25,000 per year is hardly “wealthy.”
What feminists don’t want to admit is that women would actually choose to stay at home. Choosing to stay home and raise children just doesn’t make sense to a woman who thinks the ultimate joy in life is doing what the boys do. Surely we stay-at-home moms must be too stupid to work or oppressed by our power hungry husbands, right?
Then again, even if the feminists concede that we’re not uneducated or wealthy, women like Leslie Bennetts tell us that we’re facing destitution by forgoing our careers raise children.
Men and women are suffering under the ever-growing government that is the feminist ideal. Higher taxes, more government programs, and a generally bloated federal government are the dreams of the modern feminist. Government education and subsidized day-care centers “allow” women to head to the workforce, while government-run health care and increasing business regulations give women the “freedom” to work where they choose. Unless, of course, they choose to stay home.
Hillary’s feminist dream of an “America for women” will be a nightmare for women like me. If you send your kid to daycare, you get a tax deduction; I stay at home and get lost income. The higher taxes it takes to pay for socialized medicine will mean my husband will bring home less money. Business regulations to urge “equality” for women means that – if something were to happen to my husband and I need to find a job – I will be less likely to find the kind of job I would be able to find if I was male. The push for increasing public education and eliminating the notion of school choice means that my decision to home school will be more expensive and potentially dangerous, as the NEA wields more power and labels homeschoolers “child abusers.”
So while the Democratic Party parades Hillary in front of the nation as the great savior for woman-kind, I shudder to think what my country will be like if – God forbid – she wins the White House. The former feminist ideal of opportunities and choices for women will be shattered in the name of New Feminism – a feminism that means only the choices the feminists want you to make are acceptable and my choice of staying at home to be a mom is made more difficult and less respected.
December 27, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Great interview today with Matthew Hill on “News and Views” on the Inforadionet.com.
December 27, 2007 at 3:54 pm
You are truly the male chauvinists dream woman. I suppose in your historical revisionists realm the suffrage movement enveloped nothing but the right to vote.
Why is it that you seem to deem your religious beliefs as the final authority on what is right and wrong for every other american. I would submit that many women don’t see it as their “god given role” as a wife and mother. Who are these liberals who meet in secret to form and “agenda” to have higher taxes, federal programs, and a bloated government? Where do they meet? and why is it that noone else but you far right folks know about these “secret agendas”? Finally, is a woman somehow flawed in you opinion if she decides to have children and a career? I just love Manichean thinking, the irony is that it is limitless.
December 27, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Really now Jama,
At the risk of saying something I shouldn’t, and you really are one of my favorites on the right, true conservatives, including women, were opposed to women’s suffrage. According to the Bible, if you can’t even speak in church, then conservatives 100 years ago would say then why should you have say in politics? I’m afraid that if you are against slavery, for women’s suffrage, and against public school segregation, then you are a liberal. One day, when it’s ok for consenting homosexual adults to get married, even so called conservatives will accept it like they accept the above and nobody will dare call them a liberal for doing so. So, Jama, I’m afraid you really are a liberal, just like most conservatives and they don’t even know it. Heck, most conservatives are even against state religions, unlike conservatives from 200 years ago who thought it was ok for a state to endorse a religion. (Massachussets for instance until 1839 I believe). Go figure. You don’t need a weather vane to see which way the wind is a blowin’. The difference is that I’m a liberal right now, meaning I’m a freethinker and accept freedom for everyone. That includes gays, blacks and women. I’m 3 for 3. Most conservatives are 2 for 3 (blacks and women). The time is a comin’ when most of them will be 3 for 3. you see?? Liberals have been right most throughout history. Even liberals in economics (classical liberals) who preach a free market system. I believe they are right too. It’s the conservatives (fascists) who love the marriage of business and government. So called “public-private” partnerships. You’ll find most Republicans supporting such lunacy. So, Jama, are you with me?? Are you brave enough to call yourself a liberal? Come on. You can do it. Make it a New Year! And everyone here have a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
December 27, 2007 at 11:06 pm
“and – if I must – the ability to get a job.”
At the same wage and benefits (including the benefit of fair competition for promotion) as a man? Doubtful.
“These women – the original feminists – still had respect for their husbands. They accepted the responsibility to stay home and raise their children, and truly wanted little more than a voice for women.”
I’ve always wondered how exactly is it that modern feminists don’t ‘have respect’ for their husbands. The husband is to be automatically deferred to in most matters? I fail to see how the wife who demands an equal say in financial, family and lifestyle matters is not respecting her husband. I’d say that she’s asking for true respect, in the Kantian sense; as in, ‘How can I respect you (i.e., treat you as a valuable end in yourself, nit just as a means) if you don’t respect me?’
Now, if the shared values of the people involved include the wife staying at home and raising kids, that’s alright. But I believe the rightness of the subsequent actions are dependent on the mutual consent that was established. Suppose that, after the first child, the wife changes her mind about having six children and instead wants to get a philosophy degree. Granted, he may be disappointed (like the case of two atheists, one of which becomes a Catholic after marriage) but is it appropriate for him to feel *wronged*? Does the husband, in this case, have some kind of right or hold over her not to do that? Plainly not: you can’t make someone stay home and have kids when they don’t want to. If, on the other hand, staying home and having kids were the morally obligatory role for women (in the sense of universally valid, binding across times and cultures), it may possibly follow that the husband does indeed have some sort of hold over her wife in this respect. At the very least, it would follow that the husband has the right to blame the wife for doing something immoral. Quite frankly, I think the image of a husband berating his wife for not wanting to have children is repugnant.
“Women were told that they could have sex without consequences”
Let’s not forget, men also.
“The women’s movement of today isn’t so much about “equal rights for women,” but a liberal agenda through which women would be made dependent on government rather than their husbands.”
Why do women have to be dependent on anyone? Are they weak and frightened, like Bambi after her mother is shot? Are they incapable of handling money? Most key, are they incapable of finding happiness in an independent lifestyle? Some people need to be with someone, but there are plenty of men and women that seem to do just fine living on their own and I’m not one to judge the quality of their lives.
If women don’t have to be dependent if they don’t want to (that is, they have the right to live independently if they so choose), if would follow that workplace discrimination based on your sex is wrong. But it happens all the time (it’s okay to discriminate based on your ability to do your job, not on whether or not you have breasts). So, it follows that workplace discrimination infringes on a woman’s right to live independently and has a legit claim to some sort of compensation. The government is the only steady source from which women could receive compensation from society.
Now, that’s just a bare outline of an argument. And, as with any social policies, there are problems (so-called ‘welfare babies’, etc.). But this is just to show that there could be legitimate arguments for policies such as welfare, affirmative action, etc., and not that they are just ways to get money out of your pocket and into the hands of the evil liberals.
“they see feminism as a radical fringe-movement bent on lesbian rights and androgynous she-males taking over the board room”
And I think that’s sad, especially since that specific image is cooked up and fostered by social conservatives (what did Brownback say? gay sex is worse then bestiality?).
‘had every intention of attending law school (with the brains and the test scores to do it).’
As before, what if your husband disagreed and felt God wanted him to have six kids? Let me be clear, I’m not claiming that you actually think your husband has these rights over you; what I’m claiming is that it would follow from your beliefs that something like that might be the case, and that you disagree would indicate you share more in common with feminists than you might think.
“What feminists don’t want to admit is that women would actually choose to stay at home.”
It’s fine to be a homemaker, but only if it’s a free choice. And here’s a key point about radical feminism: oppression isn’t necessarily something specific (“power hungry husbands”), but rather an overall system of ideas. Ideas about gender and social roles that are taken by a culture as given or for granted.
I often hear this about feminism: “Hey, look, us guys have to do all the work! We’re the ones getting killed in wars, not you women. We’re just as ‘oppressed’ as you are, if not more!” A statement like this misses the point about oppression. Men makes sacrifices for society as well as women, but for what benefit? Men make sacrifices for society (war, labor, etc.) and receive social compensation. Women make sacrifices for society (childbirth, missed educational opportunities, etc.) and receive nothing, save the ‘joys of motherhood’. Men make sacrifices for a social system that ultimately benefits men. Women make sacrifices for a social system that ultimately benefits men.
I think the truth is that oppression does indeed occur, in the dissemination of the very idea that women need men or must necessarily be dependent on them. Many women become housewives because they perceive, rightly, that this is their only way to achieve a reasonable standard of living. That’s not right. Women should not be forced into marriage due to having to work unreasonable hours to make the same wages as a man or due to a presupposed social idea that she, in her heart of hearts, really needs a man to rely on in the big scary world.
You thought through your decision to marry as an independent person (I know how you think :]). But, take note of the fact that many women did not have it as you did. How many women didn’t pursue academics because they were told early on that girls should be concerned with looking pretty? Because they fell in love with a boy that didn’t like to have a girlfriend as smart as him? Because they tried to pursue what they liked and encountered resistance, for they were seen as a sex object and not to be taken seriously? I’m sure you’ve encountered these and know what they are like, but you also surely realize that not all women can overcome persistent obstacles like these. Many women cave into the pressure of being what men (and women) think they need to be and eventually come to accept it as part of the natural order. That’s wrong and I’m against it.
“Government education and subsidized day-care centers “allow” women to head to the workforce, while government-run health care and increasing business regulations give women the “freedom” to work where they choose.”
Why the scare quotes? -”allow”-… as in, they are seeming to be allowed but not really allowed? They ARE really allowed to work, by having day-care options open to them where they otherwise would not.
“nightmare for women…higher taxes…bring home less money…my decision to home school will be more expensive…”
It’s my opinion that the moral problem of oppression outweighs the economic problem of higher taxes and government programs (I can see the look on your face right now!). Unlike Jamaland, where unfettered free markets and the guiding hand of Jesus cure all, the real world has problems that the free market cannot fix (like global warming… hey, is that shotgun for me?).
But that’s a whole other can of worms.
December 28, 2007 at 7:13 am
Gary,
I am a…
a…
a lib…
a liber…
LIBERTARIAN!!!!!
How’s that?
December 29, 2007 at 9:16 pm
Jama,
Dang. That means you aren’t a conservative.
What is the world coming to? That dadgum philosophy corrupted your mind I tell you. Those evil godless universities.
What would Jesus do?? He’d shut’em down!! Ha!
Ok…… I’m being mean now….
TO ALL IN THIS FORUM!! HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR WHATEVER GOD OR NO GOD THAT YOU WORSHIP!!
December 31, 2007 at 11:12 am
Hey Jama, Its getting thick in here. You obviously don’t understand feminism. You should defer to the MEN on this blog because they obviously are more in touch with the way a woman thinks than you.
You are a chauvinists dream? If a chauvinist wants to have a nurturing mother care for his children in a safe home environment rather than paying some $8/hr daycare surrogate to raise your kid in the machine, then yep.
If a chauvinist wants to marry a woman who is obviously NOT intimidated by the presence of a man and doesn’t need some “liberal” who actually is a chauvinist to save you from the evil horny heteros, then yep.
God, based on the sniveling, drivel that you stirred up with this one, I take the chauvinist’s dream comment as a high compliment for you. Here’s to you and future generations like you who has the backbone to be the most important figure in global society, an intelligent, happy, stay-at-home mom!
December 31, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Welcome back, Mark! It’s been a while since we’ve had the pleasure of your insight.
I couldn’t figure out if Chris was insulting me or my husband…or if it was, like you said, a “high compliment.” Depends on who you ask, I guess.
January 2, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I did not intend to insult either of you… on purpose anyway. As I’m sure you did not intend to insult millions of others who chose to live their lives differently than you by insinuating that those who choose to work and send their childrent o daycare are defying God. It seems it would be much easier if folks like Mark, would just SAY….Women should be submissive to their husbands. Women should stay home, have babies, and serve the husband. That is fine, if you want a society like …oh say….the Amish. Oh who some long for the good ol’ days of the 19th century when women and blacks knew their place.
The fact is that it is rather insulting to most Americans to assume they are beneath you because they don’t adhere to your religious ideology. Here in the real world, families need two working parents to make it. Here in the real world, not everyone can assume the circumstances which led you to your good fortune. Reality sucks.
January 3, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Chris,
In my opinion, liberals were right about slavery, women voting, school desegregation and they will be right about gay marriage. It’s the conservatives that we have to drag along. Jama agrees with 3 out of the 4 above. I suspect one day she’ll agree that it’s ok for the state to give out gay marriage licenses too, right Jama??
Jama, ok now that I’m through running you through the mud, I hope your family is doing well!!
Gary
January 7, 2008 at 11:46 am
Gary,
Of course they were right. The funny thing is that I was a young man in the 60’s and I distinctly remember the “dixie-crats”, who later changed to the Republican party after losing the civil rights debate, and conservatives of the day saying the same thing you hear from them today concerning social issues. Of course it was the “government is interferring in states rights, the government is telling us what to do, and liberals just want the government to solve all of our problems”. Is that not the same rhetoric we hear from them today concerning every single issue? When will they learn they are on the wrong side of history? Will they accept that this narrow minded apporach is demeaning to all of us? Wouldn’t you agree that if the conservatives had their way, then civil rights may have never happenned or at least it would have taken much longer? They want to hold Reagan up as a beacon of everything that is right about conservatism. Does anyone but me remember Reagans’ racist rhetoric in the 60’s or his racist rhetoric in 1980 in Georgia? Those on the far right or real conservatives if you will, seem to convientently forget the issues you mentioned as real and verifiable examples of the good government can do. Ask them if it was the governments job to intervene and give blacks civil rights? Of course or hopefully they will tell you yes, but then are they not being intellectually dishonest? Perhaps.